{"id":4087,"date":"2009-10-09T10:35:42","date_gmt":"2009-10-09T15:35:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/2parse.com\/?p=4087"},"modified":"2009-10-09T10:35:42","modified_gmt":"2009-10-09T15:35:42","slug":"reacting-to-obamas-nobel-prize","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/?p=4087","title":{"rendered":"Reacting to Obama&#8217;s Nobel Prize"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" title=\"Obama reading Declaration of Independence\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3139\/3994566444_62b2db35f7.jpg?resize=217%2C325\" alt=\"\" width=\"217\" height=\"325\" \/><\/p>\n<p>[digg-reddit-me]Andrew Sullivan has the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2009\/10\/nobel-reax-ii.html\">reax<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Two struck home for me. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/blogs\/kausfiles\/archive\/2009\/10\/09\/what-obama-should-do-with-his-nobel-peace-prize.aspx\">Mickey Kaus<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/2009\/10\/unexpected_developments.php\">Joshua Micah Marshall<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Kaus:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Turn it down!<\/strong> Politely decline. Say he&#8217;s honored but he\u00a0hasn&#8217;t had\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vpostrel\/status\/4730721328\">the time yet to accomplish<\/a> what he wants to accomplish. Result: He gets at least the same amount of glory&#8211;and helps solve his\u00a0<strong>narcissism problem<\/strong> and his\u00a0<strong>Fred Armisen (&#8216;What&#8217;s he done?&#8217;) problem,<\/strong> demonstrating that he&#8217;s uncomfortable with his reputation as a man\u00a0<strong>overcelebrated for his potential<\/strong> long before he&#8217;s\u00a0started to realize it. &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure Obama can really do this &#8211; but on principle it seems the right thing.<\/p>\n<p>Marshall:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This is an odd award. You&#8217;d expect it to come later in Obama&#8217;s presidency and tied to some particular event or accomplishment. But the unmistakable message of the award is one of the consequences of a period in which the most powerful country in the world, the &#8216;hyper-power&#8217; as the French have it, became the focus of destabilization and in real if limited ways lawlessness. A harsh judgment, yes. But a dark period. And <strong>Obama has begun, if fitfully and very imperfectly to many of his supporters, to steer the ship of state in a different direction<\/strong>. If that seems like a meager accomplishment to many of the usual Washington types it&#8217;s a profound reflection of their own enablement of the Bush era and how compromised they are by it, how much they perpetuated the belief that it was &#8216;normal history&#8217; rather than dark aberration. [my emphasis]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Matt Drudge is claiming that Obama will &#8220;accept award on &#8216;behalf of Americans and America&#8217;s values&#8217;&#8230;&#8221;\u00a0That seems like his best bet to me, so it&#8217;s not surprising they landed on it.<\/p>\n<p>Kathryn Lopez of <em>National Review<\/em> meanwhile has been (like many other right wingers) tweeting many different bitter sentiments &#8211; but <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/kathrynlopez\/status\/4733966813\">this one struck me as true<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>@kathrynlopez: from a friend: &#8220;I feel as if the Onion has really overdone it today. And everyone fell for it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the end, the award would have made more political sense after some accomplishment &#8211; but <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2009\/10\/09\/raw-data-text-nobel-peace-prize-citation-obama\/\">the reasoning behind the award is sound<\/a>. As the Nobel Committee wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play&#8230;Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world&#8217;s attention and given its people hope for a better future&#8230;For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world&#8217;s leading spokesman&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Nobel Prize for Peace then is not awarded for some tangible accomplishment, but rather as an endorsement of \u00a0an approach. This isn&#8217;t how we see the other Nobel awards &#8211; which reflect either a lifetime of achievement or some great achievement in some particular field which creates the confusion.<\/p>\n<p>It creates a rather high class problem for Obama as he tries to figure out how to manage these expectations. I&#8217;m not sure giving the award now was a good political decision by the committee. And my first reaction was incredulity. But if you remove the expectation that this award is about some great accomplishment, then it makes sense.<\/p>\n<p>[Image <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/whitehouse\/3994566444\/\">not subject to copyright<\/a>.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[digg-reddit-me]Andrew Sullivan has the &#8220;reax.&#8221; Two struck home for me. Mickey Kaus and Joshua Micah Marshall. Kaus: Turn it down! Politely decline. Say he&#8217;s honored but he\u00a0hasn&#8217;t had\u00a0the time yet to accomplish what he wants to accomplish. Result: He gets at least the same amount of glory&#8211;and helps solve his\u00a0narcissism problem and his\u00a0Fred Armisen (&#8216;What&#8217;s [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[143,47,4,458],"tags":[58,2309,2308,389,679,117,2307,316],"class_list":["post-4087","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-barack-obama","category-criticism","category-politics","category-the-opinionsphere","tag-andrew-sullivan","tag-joshua-michah-marshall","tag-kathryn-lopez","tag-matt-drudge","tag-mickey-kaus","tag-national-review","tag-nobel-prize-for-peace","tag-talking-points-memo"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8qcx-13V","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4087","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4087"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4087\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4089,"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4087\/revisions\/4089"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4087"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4087"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2parse.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4087"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}